Fatwa: Women and Men Touching in Pro-Wrestling

randy orton, please buy a cupAnyone who knows me knows I am the rukhsa queen.  It isn't too hard to keep within the boundaries of Islamic Law if you know where to look for a ruling that works for you.  Seriously.  That is what the Law is there for, to make your life easy within the boundaries of the divine will.  I'm a Sunni, but I gladly take rukhsas from the Shia.  If you got a rukhsa, baby, I'm buying!

I got a little worried about the Islamic propriety of all this wrasslin' stuff I've been up to.  I mean there's a lot of touching going on.  Even though I wear two jog bras and a couple of t-shirts, the men do not wear cups as if not protecting their genitals is somehow more manly.  There is this one move called a "schoolboy."  It requires me to lie on the floor behind my partner and wind my hand through his legs so that the back of my hand is touching his upper thigh.  You know what I also have to wind by to get there, eh hem.  Why can't these guys wear cups!? 

The photo is of Randy Orton.  Now my classmates do not look like this (after all Randy is a TV Wrasslin' Star on Steroids) and they wear shorts instead of little trunks, but I think the photo nicely illustrates my dilemma.

So I contacted Ayatullah Arman, a wrestling fan and self-styled Marja` taqlid in Australia for a fatwa on the matter.  If he keeps up fatwas like this, I'm liable to go back to him with all my scandalous problems!

My question:

Is it permissible for me to manhandle men in the ring? What about the "schoolboy" which requires me to put my hand right up next to his junk to trip him properly and then roll into a pin? O Marja`, I await your decision!

His answer:

Bismihi Ta`ala.

Dear Sister,

As long as you keep your thoughts pure while manhandling your male prey near body parts too delicate to mention in this decidedly sacred fatwa, then there is no harm in it. So for instance, if you focus your thoughts on pulling a hamstring instead of a g-string, or a tomb-stone instead of a 69'er, or a "Karl Gotch" instead of a "Lucy Lawless" (which--judging from her very hefty male following despite all the on-screen toughness--would be counter-intuitive to pursue, as the idea is to kick ass and take names in a manner that is pious and pleasing to the Lord), then it's all fine.

And God knows best.

It is my sincere hope that Ayatullah Arman will join us here to share his fatwas in response to your questions in the future! 

Can I get an alhamdulillah? Seriously, Muslims get so uptight over the fact that women are capable of, well, actually using their bodies that Muslim girls often get shafted in PE in Muslim schools, and in general, don't get to know and use their bodies. This has got to stop.

 

 

fashion....do not forget that 'al-haya shu3batun min al eiman'.  you are asking for the abandonment of al-haya...

Those are exactly the issues I am wondering about.  Yes, women have to be able to take part in sports yet somehow keep a sense of modesty.  Although Ayatullah Arman is not a real marja` (he just plays one on the internet), his point about intention is a good one. 

In wrestling class, there are social signals, clear signals, one gives to indicate there is nothing sexual going on nor is there any sexual interest.  First, do not look at anyone when you change.  No one looks at you, either.  If I have to change my top, I go to the bathroom.  But if it just my jeans, I do it on the far side of the ring from the guys.  The guys do not look.  I do not look at them.  The trainer yells at any of the new kids who just out of natural curiosity look anyone else.  He suggests that they are looking for x, y, and z.  Tells the whole class, loudly, they are asking for x, y, and z.  They do not look again.  When the men touch each other in the ring, they make a lot of homophobe comments that indicated "this is not sexual when I touch you there."  The homophobic comments die off as they get comfortable with each other.  I did the same with them only heterosexual comments.  No one in class bothers me even slightly.  In fact, I feel completely safe there.  It is an entirely consensual environment.  To make an analogy, it was not one of those "don't talk about the elephant in the room" situations, we talked about the elephant, detailed its parts, and realized we could live with it safely and respectfully.  There is no sense one should not express one's concerns about learning any move for any reason.  I am not fond of moves that require me to get too close to men's privates.  I made a modified school boy so I wouldn't have to do that.  It looked great.  I told my teacher that I would not do a certain move that would require a man sitting on the top rope to have have his legs over my shoulders and his junk in face.  No issues there.  There are a lot of different wrestling moves, one need not do them all. 

I am just impressed that Ayatollah Arman is classy enough to end his Fatwa with the traditional statement of humility and human fallibility: "واللہُ عالم" or "... and Allah knows best" (or, in my humble opinion, more appropriately/exactly, "...and (only) Allah Knows (it all--the rest of us are just blindfolk feeling up the cosmic elephant)". [The elephant metaphor is the one I always use in this regard--the co-incidence of your using it here, Laury, is very convenient, but intended.]

iF
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PS: isn't the tag/category for this mis-named? Shouldn't it be "wrasslin'"?

Decrease his neck by 2 inches, remove the tattoos and tape bangles, and increase the size of the plumbs that he's smuggling and that man above has a perfect body. I'm starting on HGH tomorrow in sha Allah.

This is sick.

Women should engage in sports, even wrestle, but only with other women. A real man would be too much for a woman to wrestle (look at the Olympics, women wrestle only women and men only men, don't be ignorant, men are stronger than women). Men excel in sports, it makes little sense for women to compete with people outside of their league.

Women around the world are routinely groped in Metros, and unfortunately in the Islamic and Third World in the market place. To think that men don't get a kick out handling a woman is naive. These are young teenage boys for crying out loud, they have hormones like anyone else.

Not all perverts let their enjoyment be seen by the world, the clever ones are stealthy about it.

It is sad that these men can't even beat a woman, it is clear they are not in very good shape.

Wrestling for the fun of it is already strange enough, mixed gender wrestling is just wrong.

And that fatwa issuer is very perverted, but so all of these filthy Mullahs.

None of my comments have been posted.

Tariq.

Wow.
Really? I mean, If our sister would like to engage in some wrasslin, and is going about it in a way which she is conscientious of her actions and trying to guard against the wrong ones, then so be it.
I say, YOU GO LAURA, wrassle your heart out, and let the Fatwas be fatwas :D
Im no scholar, and IMHO, you have to make the decision, and if you enjoy your sport, by all means, excel at it.

Actually if they pair wrestlers by weight and height there might be a few women out there who could, hummm whup some................at any rate intergender? Wrestling I say nada.
We not only have to look out for our own bodies and what the shaitain might whisper, but to those who look on and might get ideas.

I say go on and wrestle girl, but with females only.

All these wrestlers use steroids their whole career depends on their physique being at it's best, their acting comes in a far second.

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