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Time per day 5 prayers - I
Time per day 5 prayers – I have been curious, ballpark, how many minutes
each of the 5 daily prayers takes. I.E., guestimating, how many minutes
or hours per day does an observant Muslim pray, on an ordinary work
day, when there is no Masjid service?  I suppose I could google for
this info, but someone here should be able to answer this. Thanks!ÂÂ
FAQ on Islam - I think I
FAQ on Islam – I think I found a page with my answer. 15 minutes for each prayer.
http://www.uua.org/clf/betweensundays/middlechildhood/islam2.html
I am sure that 15 minute figure does not include wudu washing inÂÂ
preparation for prayer, so I would still appreciate it if someone
posts an estimate of the total approximate time for each of the
5 prayers, including wudu.ÂÂ
Oh goodness me, if you are
Oh goodness me, if you are really short for time, 5 minutes each. The trick is keeping your wudu. and doing your supplication as you are walking out the door…..
But I have always found that if I make time for God, God makes time for me. I’ve never been late because of praying or whatever, enough time just seems to slip in. If you do it with care and thoughtfulness and do the supplications and all that, really take your time 15 minutes. You could take all day. It is up to you.
What about ghusl. I mean
What about ghusl. I mean there are days (ahem) when I’m supposed to shower (ahem) like 2-3 times because of certain (ahem) “relations” with the wife. Is that for real?
That said, I ALWAYS feel amazing even after wudu.
2 or 3 times you need to
2 or 3 times you need to make a ghusl in a day! My God! Lay off the viagra!
A ghusl is a shower, that’s all. You take a shower in which you wash yourself all over and get your hair fully wet. You start with the intention to make a ghusl, say bismillah, wash all over, and end with an alhamdolelah.
Just so you know, if you cannot get to shower facilities after “relations” you can do all your prayers in the meantime and do the ghusl when you can get to a shower.
The law is not meant to be some sort of freaked out OCD control system, keep your common sense intact and all is well.
And dude, if you are not showering after being with your wife in the biblical way, I want to say that is really gross and you must smell rank. You know how the Spanish Christians used to figure out which of the Muslims had not truly converted to Christianity back in the day….they would smell them. In those days, only Muslims washed so much they did not smell. So there!
Yes, wudu is amazing, to
Yes, wudu is amazing, to purify oneself in this simple way with one’s intention turned towards God is beauty itself.
There's something in the New
There’s something in the New Testament where Nabi Isa (is said to have) said “The law exists for the people, the people do not exist for the law.”
hb
This might be when Jesus and
This might be when Jesus and his apostles eat some corn and did not observe proper rules, and the Pharisees (scribes) noticed the transgression, and criticized them. So, Jesus made some comment about how the law is for the sake of the people; the people are not for the sake of the law. I will look. Also, there were times when Jesus healed people on the Saturday Sabbath, which the Pharisees considered to be work on the sabbath, and a violation. I think Jesus argued that a shepherd, if a sheep fell in a ditch, on a Saturday, would surely rescue it, and not worry about the law.
see http://www.wcg.org/lit/law/sabbath/mark227.htmÂÂ
After the Pharisees criticized Jesus for allowing his disciples to pick some grain on the Sabbath day, Jesus said, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27).
Matthew 12:9-14 - Leaving there (the cornfields where Jesus and his disciples were criticised by Pharisees for picking corn on the Sabbath) he went into their synagogue (in Galilee, possibly Capernaum), where there happened to be a man with a shrivelled hand.
"Is it right to heal anyone on the Sabbath day?" they asked him – hoping to bring a charge against him.
"If any of you had a sheep which fell into a ditch on the Sabbath day, would he not take hold of it and pull it out?" replied Jesus. "How much more valuable is a man than a sheep? You see, it is right to do good on the Sabbath day."
Then Jesus said to the man, "Stretch out your hand!" He did stretch it out, and it was restored as sound as the other.
But the Pharisees went out and held a meeting against Jesus and discussed how they could get rid of him altogether.
I was thinking about the
I was thinking about the sheep in a ditch when I remembered that line about the law. It seems really weird that miraculous healing would be forbidden for any reason! Come on, isn’t there room in the Law for miracles?! Even just healing should be OK, miraculous or no.
hakim
It is a basic point of
It is a basic point of religious law that all bets are off when someone's life is in danger. This is absolutely true for Jewish and Islamic law with some very marginal exceptions (mainly in practice not in theory). I do not know of a religious law that does not make this allowance. To be honest, the New Testament is not the greatest source to find out what Jews were up to back then. There is a great resource/overview on Jewish history and thought: Jewish People, Jewish Thought by Seltzer. You can get it used for about 15 dollars.
LOL Laury. Yeah I used "LOL"
LOL Laury. Yeah I used “LOL” what’s it to ya!?
3 ghusl’s would be an exageration, but you know, it could happen!
But seriously, if we’re connecting and no Netflix DVDs are around to sever our humanity than I’d be like the cleanest f-ing bloke on the block with all this ghusl.
And I smell just fine thank you!
Thanks to D- and the pineapple they say.
Peace and love. And come to the city.
What about sex in the
What about sex in the desert? Do they go without sex in the desert? Or do they shower with sand, and does the sand stop the stink? And do they really care how they smell?
These are the eternal questions which trouble the soul!
BB: With no fear of
BB: With no fear of olfactory onslaught, I would love to visit you and your wife….perhaps soon actually, fi yad Allah.
As you might imagine
As you might imagine Sitaram, they thought of the whole “what if I don’t have water business”!
If you cannot find water or clean water or sufficient water (drinking water should not be used obviously if you need it, again common sense rules the day), then you do a tayammum. This is a dry wudu done with clean sand, dirt, a rock, dust off of a wall that has been white washed, anything that produces a little earth when you touch it.
We all do it, most muslims have a rock in the house to use for tayammum when one is sick and does not want to get one’s feet wet or touch water in an uncomfortable way. Likewise, pregnant women who cannot make it to the sink do it, or those who are physically restricted in some way. Common sense! If there is not the right water, or if it would be a hardship (you get to decide what is a hardship, not your neighbor), then you do the tayammum instead.
One has a rock, you make an intention to the tayammum in place of the wudu or the ghusl, say bismillah, you rub the rock and you wipe your face and hands only. I have also seen people wipe their foreheads and the back of their hands only. In Morocco, they did the whole face and the hands.
I keep a clean rock at school to do wudu in my office. 1. I do not want to go into the public bathroom and take my shoes off and all that and 2. I’ve got my work make-up on and I look set up for the day, etc. I don’t know whether there is an “official” ruling allowing for that or not. But since I get to decide what is a hardship, tough batooties. I make my tayammum and I make my salat in my office.
Please ask more legal questions, I am beginning to think we should build a FAQ on the site called “Common Sense Legal Matters”
There is no faster way to
There is no faster way to build up a useful FAQ than to have a curious ignoramus kuffar likme me asking a lot of questions.
Like the business about how much time the 5 Salats with wudu preparation average per day, (high end figure, when you do like the video shows), and low end figure when you tough you rock, and say some prayers on the way out the door.
This gets into the daily nitty gritty of what the commitment to Islam actually means.
Someone may ask what I get out of all this participation here, since I am not Muslim, and not likely to become one. The answer is that, last week, I went somewhere where there happened to be a number of Muslim women in hajib and veils, among the crowd, and because of my participation here, I felt more relaxed and tolerant around them. Plus, I like to learn and write about comparative religion, so a blog site like this gives me lots of material and ideas and opportunity and inspiration.
I swear, if you're going to
I swear, if you’re going to be a Muslim hang around this site!
I like the common sense idea, as long as there’s some humor in there. Perhaps Bonkers might have an idea.
Tayammum was a major jump in my relationship with Islam. It screams niyya—intention. When there’s no water (for whatever reason) the intention reigns supreme. This resonated with me and does a number on the wash because sex is dirty theory some try to push wish ghusl.
A. If you can use sand than clearly it’s more of a demarcation, a recentering if you will. An opportunity to mark a point in time where we are actively and with intention doing something as opposed to simply flailing about as is usually the case.
B. If you have to ghusl after sleeping than that leads me to think it’s more about coming back to a waking intentional state. This would make sense with sex as well. This would also explain how the Prophet (p) once said that he didn’t ghusl after sleeping because although his eyes were shut, his heart was open. Lucid dreaming, waking sleep anyone!?
All of this suggests that wudu/ghusl/tayammum is less about material cleansing and more about “coming back” and refocusing. We go on retreat throughout the day and come back for a while to impliment what we learned.
Of course there’s the whole wetting the etremities of your body, the contact points: face, head, hands, arms, feet, ears, mouth, nose; which of course are all linked to the senses INCLUDING the sixth and dare I say seventh?
:)
i find this site to be like
i find this site to be like a devils nightclub , islam is not about the what ifs and your salat will be void is you do tayaqum when you know that there is an abundance of water within walking distance laziness is not an excuse as for this talk about sex, should that really be the focuss of the conversation here
Salaam Alaikum, Actually it
Salaam Alaikum,
Actually it is called ‘tayammum’ in Arabic and not “tayaqum”...just for the sake of accuracy in the deen.
- A Salafi in worship, a Sufi in society, a Secularist in government.
"Like a devils'
"Like a devils' nightclub"?
No way, the drinks are way better there. No watered down, overpriced stuffÂÂ
for Iblis and his pals. Where have you been, man?
Gunt'd, I feel for you when
Gunt’d, I feel for you when you start studying the traditional Islamic sciences, you get into the legal material, and you start finding all those “ifs.” I didn’t make any of that up, G. In fact, I was away from home and checked a super-wahhabi web site just to make sure of my facts rather than my usual totally uptight Reliance of the Traveler.
It was a judge on the state Maliki majlis, meaning that they are the ones who make the religious legal decisions for the nation of Morocco, who told me to cool out and take legal exceptions whenever I needed them.
The “ifs” are the legal exceptions, defined by Muslim jurists.
Not the devil’s playground, just traditional Islamic scholarship.
"The devil's nightclub"???
“The devil’s nightclub”??? Oh, what a gorgeous name for a blog that would be…
A rock in the office, huh? Never thought of that. It is true in my experience that non-Muslim North Americans are often really grossed out by the sight of Muslims making wudu’ in public/institutional washrooms—-and that’s even if (as is often NOT the case) the Muslims clean up after themselves. I wonder how many Muslims are deterred from praying at school or work because of the wudu’ problem?
Women always look at me when
Women always look at me when I take a water bottle into the stall with me. I tend to talk about that in my intro to Islam class. I tell them all how much urine and poo they are walking around with on their bodies and how disgusting it is. I used to be able to say you have poop in your beard, but now with everyone getting Brazilians, that argument won’t work. I feel so gross if I don’t wash the pee off, let alone poo. Could you imagine just wiping now???? Yick!
My next house, I want one of those fancy Japanese toilets that washes your bottom for you!